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	<title>Comments on: To Union, or not to Union</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<description>I have been in business over 3 decades. It hasn&#039;t been easy but I have persevered. My men organized my shop some years ago while I was on vacation. The electrical union in my area has a slogan &quot;turn um or burn um&quot;. I went through negotiations with them for a year and I was always honest and negotiated with zeal. I was all for the union if I could keep my business base and move forward. The union was not so forthright I&#039;m afraid. They kept saying to sign and we would work out the details later. They treated me like I was an idiot. My company was bad and I wasen&#039;t paying a fair wage, telling my men that I could bid on larger jobs and we would all make more money. According to them it was in my best interests to go union. I didn&#039;t see it that way ,my customers did not need me to raise my prices because they would call someone else that was non-union if I did. I spent a lot of time and money but they had to leave after a year. Not before filing many false reports with the NLRB. 
 Where I am located non union tradesmen make much more than most college graduates. I am not saying that some industries don&#039;t need unions but I feel we don&#039;t. The unions have had their hayday and have abused it.
 i do agree with you about the apprenticeship program and around where i am they have passed numerous laws to restrict bidding on public projects w/o an apprenticeship program. When I was negotiating with the union I suggested they open up their apprenticeship program for a fee to the public. This way they would make some money and push the union way to everyone. They ignored me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in business over 3 decades. It hasn&#8217;t been easy but I have persevered. My men organized my shop some years ago while I was on vacation. The electrical union in my area has a slogan &#8220;turn um or burn um&#8221;. I went through negotiations with them for a year and I was always honest and negotiated with zeal. I was all for the union if I could keep my business base and move forward. The union was not so forthright I&#8217;m afraid. They kept saying to sign and we would work out the details later. They treated me like I was an idiot. My company was bad and I wasen&#8217;t paying a fair wage, telling my men that I could bid on larger jobs and we would all make more money. According to them it was in my best interests to go union. I didn&#8217;t see it that way ,my customers did not need me to raise my prices because they would call someone else that was non-union if I did. I spent a lot of time and money but they had to leave after a year. Not before filing many false reports with the NLRB.<br />
 Where I am located non union tradesmen make much more than most college graduates. I am not saying that some industries don&#8217;t need unions but I feel we don&#8217;t. The unions have had their hayday and have abused it.<br />
 i do agree with you about the apprenticeship program and around where i am they have passed numerous laws to restrict bidding on public projects w/o an apprenticeship program. When I was negotiating with the union I suggested they open up their apprenticeship program for a fee to the public. This way they would make some money and push the union way to everyone. They ignored me.</p>
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